how you care for the poor, how much government spends on the poor. they're very different and i think those philosophical differences are why they are really at loggerheads at this moment. the politics has not helped. right now, i think we're dealing with philosophy. >> absolutely. lisa, don't go anywhere. do we have ali velshi? is ali velshi there? ali? you have more coming up, i know. >> i do. i want to tell you about -- >> help me out here. they're not that far apart, are they? >> this is all politics. they're not that far apart. all the hard work has been done. and the danger of not getting a deal done far exceeds the danger of paying a little extra tax. i'll talk to you about that when i come back, don. >> see you after the break. >> all right. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. soun